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I Am Stefanie OConnell, Founder Of The Broke And Beautiful Life, And This Is How I Work

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h5My grandparents were storytellers. I could sit down with any of them and become engrossed in their words. I loved their insight, experience, and thoughtfulness. That love of learning about others continues, and now I’ve been spending some time interviewing the best of the personal finance community (like the founders of Budgets Are Sexy and Modest Money).

Surprisingly, it’s a tight-knit group of writers and financial experts. Some are certified financial planners, while others (like me) are experts in another field. The latter feel like the Supermen of the personal finance world: regular employees by day, financial bloggers by night.

Today, I have the privilege of interviewing one of the top financial bloggers, Stefanie O’Connell from The Broke and Beautiful Life. Her work has been featured around the top personal finance sites, and even on Frugaling. Here’s my interview with her:

What inspired you to begin TheBrokeAndBeautifulLife.com?

Oh, lots of things:

  1. I spent the first several years of my acting career on tour where we would get a per diem for housing, food, and other day-to-day expenses. My goal was not only to live entirely off that modest allowance (rather than dipping into my salary), but also, to save as much of the per diem as possible. Unemployment is an inevitable reality in the acting world. Every job ends, I knew that going in, so I prepared accordingly. By implementing this strategy, I learned lots of ways to scrimp and save that I felt I should share.
  2. Some actors are terrible with their money. I knew it would make for an uncomfortable working environment if I walked up to them and told them they were being stupid with their spending, so I decided to write about it instead.
  3. I heard so many stories about actors in Broadway shows who were left with zero savings when the show closed because they had inflated their lifestyle so much during that time. (The minimum salary for an actor in a Broadway show is $1,807/week; yep, that’s some serious spending).

All in all, I just wanted to spread financial literacy in the acting community. If anyone needs to know how to budget well and make money last, it’s actors.

How did people (friends, family, etc.) react when you first started?

I’m not really sure. I think people may have been skeptical because they knew I was a “theatre person.” I don’t think anyone ever expected me to make a career writing about money.

What was your experience with design, code, web work prior to starting your site?

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Screenshot of TheBrokeAndBeautifulLife.com

Zero! I started out on a free blogger template. After toying around with that for a year I decided to get a logo, hire a designer for the site, and setup self-hosting. As soon as I made that financial commitment to the blog, I suddenly felt committed to myself as a business owner–I needed to make the investment worthwhile.

What advice would you give to those thinking about starting their own site?

Two things:

  1. Define what you want from creating your own website. Are you looking to start a business? Are you looking to have a hobby? Do you want to use it as a portal to market yourself or your service? Are you looking to make a lot of money? Clarifying your goal for the site will help guide a lot of your initial decision making.
  2. Embrace your YOU. When I decided to transition to a self-hosted site, I hired a blog coach to help me figure out where I wanted to go with it. After talking to her for five minutes she said, “I’ve read through your entire site and I didn’t know until just now that you were an actor.” I had been afraid to pigeonhole myself and make myself irrelevant to non-artists, but the truth is, it’s my perspective and experience as an actor that sets me apart from all the other finance sites out there. Heck, that’s why I started writing in the first place!

How do you make money from your site?

While I make a fair amount of money blogging, it’s mostly from freelance writing (hire Stefanie!). My blog has served as a kind of active, online portfolio/resume to get me jobs writing for other websites.

Going forward, I’d like to generate more from the site itself through affiliate income and direct advertising. I’ve got a little bit of that going on now, but maximizing that earning potential is definitely my next big goal.

What do you think you’ve learned from your readers and fans?

I am a huge fan of alternative perspectives. Reading through the comments on each of my posts is always exciting and enlightening. I truly value the different opinions I come across, even when I don’t agree.

How can somebody in lower incomes best overcome financial hurdles and prosper?

Everybody has challenges, some of us more so than others, but the steps for overcoming them are universal: S.M.A.R.T. goals coupled with defined action steps. Chances are, you already know what you need to do, as Nike says, “just do it.”

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Who are your financial role models?

Honestly, it was Suze Orman who really got me interested in my finances. I read her book, The Money Book for the Young, Fabulous & Broke, and I was hooked; not necessarily because she had some life changing techniques or advice, but because I found her engaging and interesting. That’s what I hope to do with my blog, engage people enough that they want to take control and learn more.

What personal finance sites do you read?

I once tried making a list of all the blogs I read on a regular basis and it just got to be too long. Somewhere between 50-100 (maybe more), and they’re all fantastic in their own way.

What else would you care to share with the readers of Frugaling?

One of the big messages on my site, and one that you’ve undoubtedly heard before, is balance. I’m all about pursuing dreams, while earning income, saving for the future, and living in the present. You can have it all if you’re willing to prioritize. I don’t do the daily latte, but I’m going to Europe next month. It doesn’t feel like a sacrifice when you’re thinking about the big goals.

Want to read more interviews like this one? Read the entire interview series here!

Filed Under: Interviews Tagged With: Acting, blogger, broke and beautiful life, freelance, Marketing, money, New York City, NYC, Personal Finance, readers, site, Suze Orman, web, wordpress, writer

I Am Jeremy Biberdorf, Founder Of Modest Money, And This Is How I Work

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Modest Money Logo Financial SiteRecently, I’ve been going around the blogosphere (what an overused word!) and interviewing the top financial bloggers on the net. Two months ago I interviewed the famous J. Money from Budgetsaresexy.com. You can read that interview here. Today, I had the fortunate opportunity to get to know Jeremy Biberdorf, the founder of Modest Money! His site is rapidly growing and currently ranked in the top 35,000 websites worldwide. As a leader in the financial writing world, I wanted to get to know his tips, tricks, and super secrets for success. Here’s my interview with him:

jeremy-headshotWhat inspired you to begin ModestMoney.com?

My main inspiration was a major shift in my personal life. After years of coasting through life, I decided it was time to take my long term goals more seriously. Improving my finances was right at the top of that list. I seriously needed to get my act together with how I was blowing my money and not saving enough. When I started Modest Money, my goal was actually focused on using the blog to increase my income. As an internet marketing professional, I knew a thing or two about website marketing and monetization. Little did I realize that jumping into the finance blogging community would teach me so much. The knowledge, lessons, and contacts helped my finances even more than the extra income.

How did people (friends, family, etc.) react when you first started?

Since I had a history of running financial affiliate websites, nobody was particularly surprised. They probably weren’t expecting me to be so open on my blog though. By opening up I was keeping myself more accountable and ensuring my blog was more personable. My Mom started using my blog as a way to keep up with what was going on in my life. I generally didn’t share my blog with my friends as I wanted to be as open as possible. When I met my fiance and I told her about my blog, I’m sure she was shocked to learn so much about me from my blog. Luckily I didn’t scare her off with all of that public history. Now she is my biggest supporter.

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Screenshot of Modest Money

What was your experience with design, code, web work prior to starting your site?

This is an area where I had an advantage over most finance bloggers. I originally went to college to learn programming and other IT skills. I later transitioned into a website marketing career. Eventually I managed my own websites for several years. So I knew a lot more about the technical and marketing side of blogging than most bloggers do when they first start out. Although I had a lot of those skills, I also knew when it was best to outsource some of that work. Sometimes it’s best to get things done right and without it taking up too much of your own time.

What advice would you give to those thinking about starting their own site?

Do not underestimate the power of networking. At first I didn’t realize how much bloggers are willing to help others within the blogging community. If I had understood this from the beginning I could’ve got off to an even quicker start. Be willing to do lots of favors for bloggers and they’re bound to help you out in some way down the road. Concentrate on networking and marketing as long as you can. The other thing to understand is that blogging is not a get rich quick scheme. Most bloggers don’t make any money at all during their first year, yet they put in a ton of time and effort. Too many of those bloggers do not even get to the point where their blog is making money. To be successful you really have to think long term and be willing to put in countless hours without seeing the fruits of your labor. Work at your own pace and know it will pay off later if you stick with it.

How do you make money from your site?

There are several ways that I make money with my blog. Currently the big money maker is private ads from companies that reach out to me directly. That isn’t a sustainable income source, but it is super easy. So I see it mostly as transitional money while I work to build up other income sources. I also do some contract SEO consulting for people who hire me through my blog. Since I have helped so many fellow bloggers, a lot of them are aware of the website marketing knowledge that I have. I charge them reasonable pricing knowing that it can build up customer testimonials for securing future work. The area that I’m working at building up these days if affiliate income. If I refer enough visitors to relevant products or services I can make decent commission. This is likely going to become my big income source over time, but it takes a while to build up. Lastly I am now getting into staff writing for other blogs. Well it’s only one blog to start, but we’ll see how that goes. The part I really like about staff writing is that it can be a much more stable source of income while also helping market my own blog. If only I weren’t such a slow writer.

What do you think you’ve learned from your readers and fans?

That’s an interesting question because blogging is definitely a two way learning experience. On pretty much all of my posts readers leave comments that I can learn from. I couldn’t possibly list everything I’ve learned. The number one thing is probably how lots of people are going through similar struggles. The financial blogging community isn’t like Facebook where most people are only sharing stuff that they can show off. Instead it’s people being very supportive and sharing their experiences good or bad. Because of that support and understanding, I don’t get as stressed about facing any financial challenges.

How can somebody in lower incomes best overcome financial hurdles and prosper?

The first step is educating yourself about day to day finances. Unfortunately there are lots of areas of personal finance where people with lower income face an uphill battle. Think of how the rich get better interest rates and better credit card rewards. Then lower income people get stuck with high interest and big fees if they can’t keep up with their finances. So to combat these kinds of things, you need to arm yourself with the knowledge about how to get the upper hand on this system. Then get in the mindset that you have the power to change your circumstances. If you’re willing to put in the effort, you can reach your financial goals. Almost everyone can find ways to both reduce their expenses and increase their income. Get researching how to save money and how to earn side income. Take on the challenge and you’ll probably be surprised about what you can achieve.

Who are your financial role models?

My number one would have to my mom. She raised my sister and me as a single parent while overcoming all kinds of obstacles. Not only did she get by, but she did incredibly well. Through hard work she was able to become a successful entrepreneur. My dad played a pretty big role too. He may not make a lot of money or even manage it very well, but he provides a great example of being very happy without needing money. Although I will push to do well financially, I still know I can be perfectly fine even if I don’t become wealthy.

What personal finance sites do you read?

To be completely honest I don’t have much time for reading financial sites these days. When I first got into financial blogging I read so many finance blogs that I might have overwhelmed myself. There are only so many times you can read about certain topics that keep getting repeated. That’s not to say there aren’t awesome finance blogs out there that manage to take a unique approach, but I’ve been too busy to keep up with them. I do wish I had the time to keep learning and keep up with all the great blogs.

What else would you care to share with the readers of Frugaling?

First of all, thank you very much for inviting me to do this interview Sam. You’re doing an awesome job with Frugaling and I expect to see you around for a long time to come. For the readers of Frugaling.org, remember that personal finance is personal. You’ll read all kinds of advice and tips on finance blogs, but it’s up to you to find what ultimately works best for you. Everyone’s situation is unique. You can’t always fit a square peg into a round hole. So keep that in mind when reading finance blogs. Take what you can from that advice, but don’t expect to be able to apply all of it to your own finances just as successfully. What you do learn can still help tremendously.

Want to read more interviews like this one? Read the entire interview series here!

Filed Under: Interviews Tagged With: Blogging, Finances, Financial News, Internet Marketing, Modest Money, Personal Finance, SEO marketing, Website Design

I Am J. Money, Founder Of Budgets Are Sexy, And This Is How I Work

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J Money Budgets are sexyA man with a clever moniker recently emailed me to tell me he shared a story from Frugaling.org. Fortunately, this was not a con artist; rather, a leading personal finance writer, consultant, and designer. He goes by the name, J. Money.

Credited with founding BudgetsAreSexy.com (in the top 30k of site worldwide) and Rockstarfinance.com, J. Money took a small hobby into a magnificent career. I made some time to chat with him about personal finance, blogging, and what he reads. These were his responses:

What inspired you to begin BudgetsAreSexy.com?

To be completely honest, I was merely looking for a more productive way to waste my time at work 😉 All of my colleagues would spend their down time on video games and MySpace back in the day, and since I had recently plopped down $360,000 on a house with no budget and absolutely no money down (I know, I know…), I thought starting my own site would help me hunker down a bit and have a little fun at the same time. I saw other bloggers sharing their entire net worth with the world which just fascinated me, so I thought I’d do the same and see if it helped anyone in the process. And now here we are 6 years later! A hobby turned full-time employment, pretty incredible stuff… Who knew you could make money sharing your thoughts?

How did people around you react when you first started?

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The Man, The Myth, The Legend

People in my real life, or people online? My real life friends/family/co-workers had no idea – I went completely anonymous just so I could be as transparent as possible and say whatever I wanted without worrying about the consequences. Which sounds a lot shadier than it is (how much trouble can you really get into talking about budgeting?? Haha…), but the freedom and excitement it gave me helped catapult this little project into something bigger and better than I could have anticipated. And now this “J. Money” guy is more real than the guy sitting here typing this to you! 😉 And has way more friends too, as nerdy as that sounds.

As for people online, everyone was (and still is) incredibly kind. I have never met a group of people more willing to help out and welcome you into a community than the personal finance world. Both the bloggers, and the readers. We’ve got a really amazing community here, and one you don’t easily find in this world. ESPECIALLY online. You always read about all the trolls and haters and people being nasty left and right behind the computer, but you rarely see it in our small space. I don’t know if I’d still be around if this weren’t the case.

What was your experience with design, code, web work prior to starting your site? 

Oddly enough I came out of college with a degree in graphic design and advertising, but I hadn’t used it an ounce in the 7 years leading up to my blog. So the second I was able to dabble in it all over again I was pretty happy! And so were my parents – I was finally using that degree 😉 Unfortunately my skills are still stuck circa 2001, but these days everything is built for the average Joe out there and anything can be easily figured out with Google. Especially with blogging and WordPress. So if you’re reading this and interested in starting your own site one day, please don’t be discouraged by the technicality of it all – you’ll be fine!

What advice would you give to those thinking about starting their own site?

Oh man, just pick a topic you’re passionate about and then get to writing! All of the rest of the stuff is important over time (the design, layout, SEO, marketing), but really it all starts with your words. And especially your “voice” – the way your personality shines through. There’s a million blogs on money or cars or fashion/etc, but the one thing you have that nobody else does is your voice. Own it and just be yourself when getting your thoughts out because it’s unique! You’re not trying to duplicate anybody else’s sites, you’re trying to make your own. And once you get going all the other stuff will fall into place.

Feel free to reach out to me anytime with questions or ideas, I’m happy to help! j (at) budgets are sexy (dot) com.

(Fair warning though, if you tell me you’re doing it for the money I won’t be able to help you. I’ve never met one person who started a blog that way and got successful. You have to do it because you’re interested in it and it’s fun for you or else you’ll burn out in a matter of months 🙁 It takes a substantial amount of time and effort to make anything real off it, and you’re better off rockin’ a different side hustle if that’s your motive – which is perfectly fine!)

How do you make money from your site?

I make money a handful of ways: display advertising, direct advertising, affiliates, blog consulting, and building out a number of other online projects that also do the same. For instance, Rockstar Finance showcases awesome articles on money in a more fun and visual way.

But there are a ton of other ways to make money too that I currently don’t do: freelance gigs, ebooks, real books, speaking engagements, products, and a ton of others. It really comes down to what you’re interested in, and what you’re good at. And the beauty of the online world is that the opportunities are endless!

What do you think you’ve learned from your readers and fans?

Pretty much EVERYTHING, haha… I joke that my blog’s like the dessert of personal finance, and everyone else serves up the meat and potatoes 🙂 My goal is to really just motivate people to stop and think about their money every once and in a while, so my writing style is very fluffy and diary-like. Whenever I want to talk about a more serious, in-depth, topic on finance, I’ll share a few light thoughts and then open it up to my audience to chime in and fill out the rest. And they’re great at it. Our community is probably the best thing about my site, to be honest with you. We’ve got a lot of (friendly) discussions going on at all times, and no one’s afraid to ask for help or give guidance. I’m always learning a ton from them.

How can somebody in lower incomes best overcome financial hurdles and prosper?

Probably by first stopping to track every single dollar in and out for a few months. Which is boring as hell, I know, but it’s amazing how your mindset changes once it SEES where all the money is flowing! The first time I tried this (early 2008) I was blown away buy where all my money was going, and as time progressed I started catching myself before spending foolishly because I knew I had to document it all later that week. And soon enough I was saving *hundreds* a month with no real downsize in lifestyle – it was awesome!

The other thing I’m always harping on is having *multiple* sources of income if you can. There are two sides of growing your money in personal finance – the “cut your expenses as much as possible” one, and then the “make more money” one. Both fine to do and helps you get closer to your goals, but in my opinion the “making more” strategy will get you to the finish line MUCH faster. So I tend to focus on that part a bit more, and showcase some of these other jobs out there in our Side Hustle Series of our blog.

Who are your financial role models?

Hmm, that’s a hard one. I don’t really think I have a specific person or two I look up to – I tend to get motivated by what the “everyday” people are doing out there. Whether it’s finding a unique way to save I hadn’t heard of before, or someone sharing their latest tax-hacking or investment strategies. And I tend to find these people in the comments of other blogs, or the handful of new bloggers that are popping up. As I mentioned in the advice question earlier, everyone has their own story to tell, and I relate a lot more to them than I do, say, someone famous or a financial “expert.” They just seem way more genuine to me.

What personal finance sites do you read?

I’m really into the “retire early” crowd right now, so most of my faves right now are in that area:

  • jlcollinsnh
  • Mad Fientist

And then more generally:

  • Afford Anything
  • Enemy of Debt
  • Len Penzo

What else would you care to share with the readers of Frugaling?

Just keep on paying attention to that money, baby! The more you focus on it now, the less you have to do down the road… As a blogger friend of mine once said, “Think of your dollars as employees. Each one has the power to earn an income for you!”

Now go check out my new website: RockstarFinance.com 🙂

Want to read more interviews like this one? Read the entire interview series here!

Filed Under: Interviews Tagged With: advertising, Blogging, Budgets Are Sexy, How I Work, Interview, J Money, Marketing, Rockstar Finance, SEO

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