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The Frugal Guide To Buying A Used Car

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Volkswagen VW Jetta Used Car Buying

I have a confession to make, but I’m a bit embarrassed to admit it. I bought a used car. Please don’t judge me for this news update. Would you allow me to explain why a frugal guy like me did this and how I made it as frugal as possible? Pretty please?

For starters, I’m moving out of Iowa City this year to another city nearby. The rents are cheaper there, but it’ll require a little commute. Without a car, the move would be impossible. There’s no regular, public transportation available. I wouldn’t be able to make it to school and work each day.

I fretted over this decision for quite some time. I remembered how stressed and awful I felt with a car. It encouraged me to be lazy — driving instead of biking or walking. Additionally, the car loan I had left me nearly penniless each month. I couldn’t save much.

For the last year-and-a-half, I went without a car. I sold it, paid off the remainder of my car loan, and began saving hundreds of dollars by biking everywhere. The commutes to grocery stores, school, and work were tiring, but I was saving every pedal of the way. In fact, over this last 18 months, I saved thousands of dollars.

Now, I’m re-entering the world of car ownership. To make this purchase, I needed another car loan. I paid off about two-fifths of the total price and financed the rest of a $10,000 2014 Volkswagen Jetta. Let’s dig a little deeper into why I chose this car and how I made it as frugal as possible.

Make time for the search

When someone finally decides to buy a car, two pressures tend to take hold: I want it now and I need it now thinking. The want it now has extra time to find a good value, but feel compelled to be zooming around in one as soon as possible. The secondary, need it now group has not left enough time to thoroughly search. They don’t have the luxury of looking.

If at all possible, plan for a car search. Begin it as soon as you get an inkling you’ll need a car. For me, I knew about 6-7 months ago a car would be needed. I started browsing Craigslist, eBay Motors, and dealers’ websites for more information about what was available, pricing, and distance from me.

Then, for every car that sparked my interest and seemed like a good deal, I researched price expectations, reliability information, ratings, and true cost of ownership. Around the same time, I visited my car insurance’s website to calculate expected monthly costs for every possible iteration. By the end of my 6 month search, I knew my stuff — I just needed the car.

Use a credit union for financing

Big banks have one motivation: big profit. When it comes to financing, they’re usually a last resort — regardless of credit history, score, or income. Unless you are immensely wealthy, big banks can’t help save you money on a car loan.

When I was gearing up to buy my first car a few years ago, the first trip I made was to Wells Fargo. I’d been a banking customer with them for 6 years at the time. Curious to know what they’d offer me, I asked the loan officer and was told I should expect double-digit interest on any loan duration or amount. I laughed out loud at the absurdity, and asked if those were the final offers. They were.

I found solace at a credit union; PenFed, to be more specific. Credit unions run on shareholders, much like banks do. The key distinction is that shareholders are credit union members. If you open an account, you usually become a shareholder. You can vote on new board members, propose programs, and advocate for fairer pricing. Credit unions are motivated to help their members succeed. They’re not in it solely for the profit.

With my used VW Jetta, PenFed was able to give me a 2.49% car loan for four years. Even though I’m spreading the remainder of the car over four years, the payments add up rapidly. Fortunately, little will be going back to the bank as interest.

Find rental/fleet vehicles

When you look at the price I paid versus the expected price for a 2014 VW Jetta (upwards of $12,000 for one in this condition), you might wonder, how the heck did he do it?! The key was finding a rental vehicle in this instance.

There’s an underlying assumption that rental and fleet vehicles get driven harder than personally owned vehicles. In fact, it’s pervasive if you look into buying rental cars. Commenters and “experts” weigh in to tell you what they think, but the best advice I’ve seen comes from Bankrate.com:

While we all know rental cars have somewhat of a bad reputation as cars that have suffered abuse by their renters, there’s no guarantee any used car you buy hasn’t been abused in the same way unless you personally know its history.

It simply comes down to logic and critical thinking on this one. All used cars get driven, right? When we buy a used vehicle, we assume either the individual owner or dealer is telling the truth. Some rental vehicles get driven hard, and some non-rental used cars get driven hard, as well. There’s really no way of knowing.

Amidst the murkiness, you can often find a good deal. Whether true or not, people tend to discount these cars and the dealers usually do, too.

Find a friend — don’t go alone

Whether you go to a dealer, a Craigslist creeper, or your neighbor, scoping out used cars can be tricky. It’s hard to check over an entire car at one look, and oftentimes test drives don’t allow the potential purchaser to spot the defects. This is a simple instance where four eyes and two brains are better than yours alone.

When I went shopping, I tried to bring a good friend of mine who also happens to know cars. That allowed me to assume a role when at dealerships and individual’s cars. I could play stupid, as my friend checked under the hood, around the brakes, inside the wheel well, etc. This team effort allowed me to focus on what the seller was saying to pay careful attention to the words shared.

Additionally, having two people present makes a more convincing argument. When you’re negotiating a final offer, having an “expert” around can help convince someone to lower the amount. It’s a game of triangulation against the seller, and if you can perfect it, the prices can become much better.

Alright, now I’d love to know what secrets you have to securing a good value when shopping for used cars. What tips do you have?

Filed Under: Loans, Save Money Tagged With: buying, car loan, Guide, Interest, Shopping, used car

Should You Ditch Your Car Loan? 10 Questions To Ask Yourself

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Should You Ditch Your Car Loan? 10 Questions To Ask Yourself

Find a car, take out a loan, hand me the keys

In the summer of 2011, I bought a used Honda Civic. It was my first car buying experience. I had emailed a private owner through Craigslist, and found a time to meet and test drive the vehicle. After inspection and various checks at a local dealership, it was blessed by the car gods mechanics. Then and there, I decided to purchase the car for $11,000.

Naturally, as any indebted American knows, I didn’t have the funds to purchase a car. I was fresh out of college, with about $3,000 in savings. The only thing that made me creditworthy was my successful use of credit cards in college and a predicted income that could support the purchase of a vehicle.

The owner and I went to a local bank to see a notary and have a teller confirm the funds contained on my bank loan check. I wrote in the total purchase price and handed it over. In exchange, I was given a couple sets of keys.

The car was mine — all mine.

Honda Civic Coupe Car LoanLet the car loan payments begin

At nearly $200 per month, my five-year car loan is difficult on my budget. Unfortunately, when I first purchased the vehicle, I didn’t really have a budget. My budget was based on my ability to receive $15-20,000 in student loans every year — despite my tuition being paid for by a graduate assistantship.

Every month I was bleeding red, as the car loan payments would take any surpluses. But even more, I still didn’t have a budget to stick to and stay accountable for. Instead of selling or never buying the car, I convinced myself that I needed this automobile — at this price and quality.

My choice to buy a 2006 Honda Civic bordered on the egoistic. The voice inside my head said, “You deserve this nice car, Sam.” But the burden of spending $200 per month on top of student loans that were costing me 6.8% APR was a rough combination. It contributed greatly to a precipitous fall in net worth.

I could never properly calculate the true cost of the car, my student loans, and where my total debt would be in the following days, months, and years. Having a car — or, more specifically, a car loan — complicated everything.

Consider other options later, buy now

The entire buying process is like a wild carnival — walk in and you’ll see rides, games, laughter, prizes, and more. Browsing for cars at dealerships makes you feel special. People suddenly approach you, wondering what you’d like to buy, drive, lease, etc.

Car buying — whether with a private owner or dealer — is an American rite of passage. We own about 250 million vehicles between a population of 319 million people. Everything about this process seems tailored to these expectations about ownership and independence — powerful cultural values.

This swirl of attention, cultural identity, and peer support affected me when I plopped the original $11,000 to purchase my Honda Civic. I only considered other options (i.e., cheaper vehicles or not buying a car at all) about a year into my car loan. It was then that I realized all the powerful financial consequences of my decision.

Think: Debt, burden, liability, and depreciation

I hate to be another consumer, loving an inanimate object, but I have a real affinity for my car. My Honda Civic has taken me all over the midwest. When I moved to Iowa, I packed everything I could into my car and gave away what was left. It’s been my trusty sidekick for a while now, but it’s time for us to depart.

I finally listed it on Craigslist.

With nearly $200 a month in car loan payments, inevitable depreciation, insurance costs, and other debts that are demanding my attention, it’s time to finally sell my car. Not only is it the frugal thing to do, but the car has become a real luxury for me — there are other ways (i.e., the free bus) to get around in Iowa City.

Hopefully I can sell the car reasonably soon. I’d love to be able to reduce my monthly bills and start saving even more. I came up with a little list of questions to ask before ever buying another car again. Maybe these will help you resist the urge to splurge or even sell your car!

Questions for the car buyer/owner/seller:

  1. How much will this vehicle cost you over 10 years?
  2. Do you currently have an emergency fund set up to handle accidents and/or insurance premiums?
  3. How often will you drive your vehicle and for what purpose?
  4. What size vehicle do you need?
  5. How do you currently manage without a car (if you do not own one yet)?
  6. What’s motivating you to purchase this specific car?
  7. How do you feel about the impact your greenhouse gas emissions will have on the environment?
  8. What would the car provide that a regular bike could not offer?
  9. How would your budget deal with a spike in gas prices or if insurance premiums rise?
  10. Will this impact how many hours you need to work or extend your period before retirement?

Filed Under: Loans, Save Money Tagged With: AAA, car, car loan, Carbon Tax, civic, cost, Coupe, debt, Greenhouse Gases, honda, Student Loans, vehicle

Would You Honestly Answer This Debt Question?

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The first-year anniversary of Frugaling.org is right around the corner. It’s been over 11 months since I started this journey and a tremendous amount has changed. Today, I’m taking time to reflect on what started it all.

How much debt do you have?

When I was asked this debt question, it seemed invasive and prosecutorial. The consequences were unfathomable and unknown. I remember feeling awkward, heavy, and embarrassed. I knew the number right off the top of my head, but saying it aloud made the situation more real. The answer to that question was personal and private. I was almost ready to react in defense of my debt!

I briefly thought, “I’m a student, I need this debt! It’s necessary! Look at other people! Hell, it’s an investment in my future career!” Can’t you read and feel the dripping indignation?

The question appeared to be an oxymoron, too. Frankly, I had less than nothing. How could I have less than nothing?! Nearly $40,000 in debt between credit cards, student loans, and a car loan, I didn’t own anything. Instead, banks owned me and all my stuff. With student loans, you either pay them back, enter a special governmental program for forgiveness, or you die. There’s no option to reduce your interest for good grades or make it magically disappear — not even bankruptcy can save you.

Despite the internal pressures to keep quiet or lash out against the person asking this loaded question, I decided to follow down a different path. I responded hesitantly — not knowing the response I’d receive — but also with combination of authenticity, genuineness, honesty, and openness.

Sharing the big, scary number

I plopped out this turd of a number: “I have about $38,000 in debt right now.”

The heft of that number and all the social pressures surrounding it seemed to be lifted. The veil of privacy and secrecy around my debt disappeared. Suddenly, I felt freer. Over the coming months, I began to tell more people about my problem. Some people reacted in shock. Others shrugged their shoulders and admitted they had more than me. Seemingly, my vulnerability and authenticity encouraged others to share their honest reactions and their own debt stories.

I wasn’t alone anymore with this staggering number. I wouldn’t be kept up at night anymore. Being able to share my story enabled me to take responsibility for errors and realize how I could improve. The two combined in perfect harmony into Frugaling.org.

The pressures of society are powerful

I was worried about the stigma of debt. I noticed in popular media and casual conversations that debt was comparable to ill morals. Poorer people are vilified for making mistakes and not working hard enough. I was told that if I share my bank statements and my debt load openly that that was tantamount to indecent exposure. Maybe they’re right, but by facing my problem head on and sharing freely, something beautiful happened.

Unsubsidized Student Loan Chart Debt Question
My unsubsidized student loans were going crazy. In August 2013, they reached $25,000. By the end of April, they’ll be paid off completely!

After I started Frugaling.org, I began to pack more lunches, choose more affordable clothing stores (haven’t purchased anything in 8 months), make a budget I could actually follow, and radically reduce my debt. I made more money and paid my loans off in huge chunks.

Being honest and risking rejection was one of the most difficult things I’ve done. But I’m certain now that this openness is the strongest method and pressure to fixing a bloated, dangerous debt course. Changing the path can seem difficult — you’re going to want people supporting you. By admitting your debt load, you’ll be making your first step towards zero and have a team of people cheering you on.

Have you shared your total debt with other people? What was it like sharing your story? How do you find support in your journey back to zero debt?

Filed Under: Loans Tagged With: car loan, credit, credit cards, debt, Frugal, loans, Student Loans

Ditching The Car Loan – My $10,000 Liability

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Should You Ditch Your Car Loan? 10 Questions To Ask Yourself

There’s a beautiful, shiny, blue, 2006 Honda Civic coupe in my parking lot. I’ve owned it for nearly two years. The car has run perfectly – no maintenance issues or starter problems. It gets around 30+ miles per gallon – depending on my need for speed. Today, I’ve decided to sell it.

Two summers ago, I was in a different place mentally and physically. I moved for graduate school and I was a single guy looking to impress. The things we purchase, wear, and surround ourselves are often a display of our wealth – or lack thereof. I wanted a nice looking car (read: expensive-looking) that would last a long time and wouldn’t take much upkeep. I didn’t actually have the money, but the convenient credit was all too easy to acquire. It’s only now that I’m realizing my grave mistake.

I’ve paid $196 a month on my car loan for nearly 24 months. I pay nearly $40 per month in insurance. I pay about $30 per month in gas. And then… There’s depreciation. Conservatively, it costs me about $300 per month to own this luxury (after registration and taxes). My debt clock reads $37,753 – time to cut out the extras.

When I stepped back and examined my needs and wants, I realized that this expensive vehicle was the elephant in the room – the biggest extra I own. Over this summer I hope to sell the car, buy a cheap (2002 and earlier) Toyota Camry or Corolla and a bike. I’ll use the proceeds of the sale to pay off the rest of my $7,500+ left on the auto loan and take the difference to buy a vehicle in cash – no loans or credit needed.

I can’t keep kidding myself… I can’t keep saying that I’m trying to eliminate my debt, while keeping the largest liability in that parking lot. It’s time to make some sacrifices for my future. 

Filed Under: Loans, Save Money Tagged With: car loan, civic, debt, honda

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