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Would You Honestly Answer This Debt Question?

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The first-year anniversary of Frugaling.org is right around the corner. It’s been over 11 months since I started this journey and a tremendous amount has changed. Today, I’m taking time to reflect on what started it all.

How much debt do you have?

When I was asked this debt question, it seemed invasive and prosecutorial. The consequences were unfathomable and unknown. I remember feeling awkward, heavy, and embarrassed. I knew the number right off the top of my head, but saying it aloud made the situation more real. The answer to that question was personal and private. I was almost ready to react in defense of my debt!

I briefly thought, “I’m a student, I need this debt! It’s necessary! Look at other people! Hell, it’s an investment in my future career!” Can’t you read and feel the dripping indignation?

The question appeared to be an oxymoron, too. Frankly, I had less than nothing. How could I have less than nothing?! Nearly $40,000 in debt between credit cards, student loans, and a car loan, I didn’t own anything. Instead, banks owned me and all my stuff. With student loans, you either pay them back, enter a special governmental program for forgiveness, or you die. There’s no option to reduce your interest for good grades or make it magically disappear — not even bankruptcy can save you.

Despite the internal pressures to keep quiet or lash out against the person asking this loaded question, I decided to follow down a different path. I responded hesitantly — not knowing the response I’d receive — but also with combination of authenticity, genuineness, honesty, and openness.

Sharing the big, scary number

I plopped out this turd of a number: “I have about $38,000 in debt right now.”

The heft of that number and all the social pressures surrounding it seemed to be lifted. The veil of privacy and secrecy around my debt disappeared. Suddenly, I felt freer. Over the coming months, I began to tell more people about my problem. Some people reacted in shock. Others shrugged their shoulders and admitted they had more than me. Seemingly, my vulnerability and authenticity encouraged others to share their honest reactions and their own debt stories.

I wasn’t alone anymore with this staggering number. I wouldn’t be kept up at night anymore. Being able to share my story enabled me to take responsibility for errors and realize how I could improve. The two combined in perfect harmony into Frugaling.org.

The pressures of society are powerful

I was worried about the stigma of debt. I noticed in popular media and casual conversations that debt was comparable to ill morals. Poorer people are vilified for making mistakes and not working hard enough. I was told that if I share my bank statements and my debt load openly that that was tantamount to indecent exposure. Maybe they’re right, but by facing my problem head on and sharing freely, something beautiful happened.

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My unsubsidized student loans were going crazy. In August 2013, they reached $25,000. By the end of April, they’ll be paid off completely!

After I started Frugaling.org, I began to pack more lunches, choose more affordable clothing stores (haven’t purchased anything in 8 months), make a budget I could actually follow, and radically reduce my debt. I made more money and paid my loans off in huge chunks.

Being honest and risking rejection was one of the most difficult things I’ve done. But I’m certain now that this openness is the strongest method and pressure to fixing a bloated, dangerous debt course. Changing the path can seem difficult — you’re going to want people supporting you. By admitting your debt load, you’ll be making your first step towards zero and have a team of people cheering you on.

Have you shared your total debt with other people? What was it like sharing your story? How do you find support in your journey back to zero debt?

Filed Under: Loans Tagged With: car loan, credit, credit cards, debt, Frugal, loans, Student Loans

I Am Grayson Bell, Founder Of Debt Roundup, And This Is How I Work

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Grayson Bell

Over the last few weeks, I’ve been emailing and interviewing the top writers (e.g., the founders of Budgets Are Sexy, The Broke And Beautiful Life, Frugal Rules, and Modest Money) in the personal finance community. They’re a wonderful, supportive group of people. I’d encourage anyone that’s struggling to make ends meet to reach out for support and guidance from them.

Today, we are fortunate to have Grayson Bell of Debt Roundup. He’s a leading writer in the field, and is a total success story. He came back from $50,000 in credit card debt and lived to tell the tale! I’m happy to share this 5th interview with all of you. Thanks, Grayson!

What inspired you to begin DebtRoundup.com?

I had just made my last payment on my credit card debt. It was over $50,000 to start and I was super excited to pay it off. After the payment, I figured I could share my story with others. My personal story is just a little different because I racked up debt from starting and running a business. It turns out that many enjoyed my story.

How did people (friends, family, etc.) react when you first started?

My family knew about it right after I started it. My wife supported me through the whole thing. Since I have always been someone that worked with online ventures, they weren’t surprised at all. My friends did get a little jolt when I told them. They always thought I had my financial life in order. They were wrong!

What was your experience with design, code, web work prior to starting your site?

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Screenshot of Debt Roundup

I taught myself how to code when I started my e-commerce business. I have been doing it for close to 10 years. I actually offer coding and design tweaks to many other bloggers because of my experience. That is one part of my business that I am trying to grow.

What advice would you give to those thinking about starting their own site?

Just do it. Starting a blog is awesome, but know that it is a lot of work. If you want to become successful, then understand that it is a time commitment. I would also suggest that anyone looking to blog get setup on a real domain running WordPress. That is the real way to blog and grow. I have a great guide on how to start a blog on my site.

How do you make money from your site?

Wait, you can make money blogging? OK, just kidding. I make money in a variety of ways, which include affiliate promotion and Google AdSense. I make the most of my money freelancing for other sites, which found me from my blog.

What do you think you’ve learned from your readers and fans?

This is the best part about blogging. Connecting with the readers is a true experience. I love writing something and then getting feedback from my loyal readers. The biggest thing I have learned is to keep my mind open when it comes to how I manage my money. There are so many different ways to handle your finances that it can be mind-boggling. I really enjoy seeing how others deal with their money.

How can somebody in lower incomes best overcome financial hurdles and prosper?

This is an extremely tough question to answer. The main thing I can say is to have a desire to make a change first and foremost. If you don’t truly want to make a change, then you never will. Take it upon yourself to gain more education. Knowledge leads to opportunities, and opportunities lead to lifestyle changes. I have come across many that started out in lower-income brackets and have worked their way out and now thrive. These people were extremely motivated to start.

Who are your financial role models?

I am not the type of person that likes to focus on role models. No one is perfect and no one has all the right answers. For this reason, I don’t dedicate my time to following one person. I learn about money from the people I interact with on other personal finance blogs as well as my own. I guess you can call them my role models.

What personal finance sites do you read?

These days I don’t get to read much, but when I do have time, I like to read Budgets are Sexy, Frugal Rules, Making Sense of Cents, and Club Thrifty.

What else would you care to share with the readers of Frugaling?

First, thank you Sam for including me in this interview series. I am honored. Secondly, if you really want to make a financial change in your life, then go do it. Action leads to results, so don’t be afraid to take action and find opportunities.

The true power to make a change starts and ends with you.

Want to read more interviews like this one? Read the entire interview series here!

Filed Under: Interviews Tagged With: Advice, Blog, Blogging, credit cards, debt, Debt Roundup, Financial, Founder, How I Work, loans, Payments, Personal Finance, Website, writer

5 Essentials For Paying Student Loans

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My student loans were careening out of control. Now, I’m looking at the finish line: zero debt.

Today, I paid off more student loans than ever before: $4,000, to be exact. This hefty deposit was made directly to my loan servicer, which will pay off federal aid debts. In May 2013, I had nearly $40,000 in debt. I was careening out of control, and my only solution was to take out more student loans. Instead, I started Frugaling and changed my entire financial future.

Even though I’m making more money than ever, it’s important to safely and smartly pay off debts. While it’s best to prevent excess debt via proactive budgeting, paying it off can be dangerous, too. In my situation, I paid off this huge chunk of debt by following the proceeding five essentials. Hopefully these will help you to safely pay off more student loans than ever!

1. Pay Off Active, High Interest Student Loans

Okay, I’m going to get a little technical here. I have two types of federal aid: A and B. My “A” loans are subsidized (no interest gaining) until I graduate from school. Unfortunately, my “B” loans are a running taxicab of interest and piling debt.

The first goal needs to be paying off high interest student loans that are active. My “A” loans are not active, and as such, do not need to be the focal point. Meanwhile, my “B” loans are ticking along at about 6.7% APR. All my energy and funds are going towards these second, active interest loans right now.

2. Pay Off As Much As Your Budget Can Bear

It’s tempting to start taking some of my newfound money and buy things. Somewhere between things I don’t need and things I’ve long wanted – oh, how wonderful that would be to buy the unnecessary but awesome!

To prevent this human reaction, I’m digging deep and paying off an uncomfortable amount of student loans every month. It hurts to pay this much because I feel uncomfortable having this little in my savings/checking accounts. Conversely, it helps me pay off more each month, and prevents needless purchases while my budget is being corrected. The less access to money you have, the less you’ll spend!

3. Subsidized Loans Are Free Money While In School

The “B” portion of my loans are my enemy, while “A” is a friendly sort. My student loans started out as a subsidized group, when the country cared about educating the masses affordably and fairly. That’s sort of changed.

I have $8,500 in subsidized loans that are protected from gaining interest until I graduate. Phew! This mass is scary and will be a priority at some point. While I’m in graduate school, I’ll aim to stock up my bank account, build an investment portfolio, and diligently follow my budget. Later, after I graduate and the interest becomes active, I’ll redirect this built up liquidity to quickly pay off the rest of my loans.

4. Keep Some Handy For Emergencies/Tax Season

This might seem contradictory, but part 2 says pay as much as you can possibly bear. Does that mean you should scrap any emergency funds to pay off student loans immediately? Well, it depends on your liabilities.

As a car owner, with certain financial obligations, I need to have some money on hand in case something goes awry. Likewise, this is the first tax season where I’ll be paying Uncle Sam. While I’m happy to do it, I need to prepare for significant budget buster in mid-April (when my payment is scheduled). The key here is to pay as much as you can, while insuring yourself against totally tragedy.

5. Recognize Your Accomplishments

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Bring in the reinforcements! Good habits are largely built from strong, positive reinforcement behaviors. Pavlov and Skinner are the two psychologists credited with founding the field of classical and operant conditioning. If you’ve ever taken a psychology course, you’ve likely learned about them.

Those two stodgy, crotchety scientists were pioneers in the field of education and behavior management. Skinner’s operant conditioning reinforcement schedules are as important as ever. Simply put, when you’re done paying off a significant chunk of student loans, reward yourself! Today, mine will be an extra coffee before work. What’s yours?

Filed Under: Loans Tagged With: Budget, debt, graduate school, Habits, high interest, loan, positive reinforcement, skinner, Student Loans, subsidized, taxes

The Debt Breaking Point: A Student Reforms His Budget

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If your budget looks anything like this truck, you’re in trouble.

As a student, we are presented a nearly blank check in the form of student loans and financial aid packages (aka, more student loans). It can be hard to resist taking out more than you actually need. But once you open the intravenous drip of federal funds, it can be hard to quit it – hard to reduce your liabilities.

A close friend of mine confided in me that he was broke. The credit card debt had taken over. It wasn’t supposed to work out this way. He had student loans, but he knew better. Something had happened; sort of inexplicable, really. His expenditures soared, but the income was stagnant.

After realizing his budget couldn’t right itself, he scrambled to find help with friends and family. Fortunately, they supported him financially and he’s been fixing his broken budget. The following are some excerpts from our conversation (via email), as he’s learned a lot about what drove him to this level.

Romantic relationships and money

Our conversation ran the gamut, but for a moment, he focused on the impact of relationships and money. Implicitly, there’s a pressure as man (whether there should be or not) to treat and offer to pay – to be a provider.

I like the thought too about expectations, the impact on relationships (if one partner has to suddenly cut back). Part of my expectation (related to gender role socialization) has made it tough for me. I’m so used to being able to buy nice things for Susie, to pay for her dinner, to treat her to nice surprises (fuck, even for little things like buying flowers).

He ran out, and in sharing this with his partner, she was surprisingly accepting, supportive, and helpful. It can be difficult to admit budgetary defeat, and the longer it goes unnoticed, untamed, and denied, the deeper the hole can become. Here are some things he learned from confronting and sharing this realization:

…She’s been great about the whole thing. I think she’s honestly relieved a bit. She’s been much better at being frugal than me (more self-disciplined and better at handling money) from day one. I think she’s been very aware that marrying me means joining with my maelstrom of ego-driven impulse buys, not effortfully considering the true cost (long term) of my purchases, whether I can afford things in reality, and my staggering student loan debt.

Dinner Budget Student Loans Debt
Shopping and going out can be easy – too easy.

Last May, I realized I was sinking, and attempted to change everything because I didn’t want my debt to destroy a loving relationship. Seemingly, by confronting and asking for support from others (emotional and/or financial), the way back can be made easier. My friend decided he needed to start from scratch and analyze the budgetary gaps where money was disappearing.

The sink is shipping… How do I take back control?

For me, I had a similar experience to your 7 day challenge. I had so many little expenditures I didn’t realize (holes in the hull of my “finance boat” if you will). I had far less variety in food while I was getting the hang of it. I made rice & beans and had it for like 6 meals. I changed a few things up, would add cheese or salsa. I would wrap it in a tortilla or just have in a bowl. And I would intersperse a McDonald’s dollar menu purchase to balance it out. But it was tough feeling like I’d failed. Tough having to tell myself no, you can’t have it. I think it helps knowing I can’t “cheat” when I have these either-or decisions to make.

As he traveled through the joys of cutting back and realizing what needed to go, the budget was pretty clear; all or nothing, he had to change. The spending couldn’t be sustained. The credit cards were maxed. The student loans were tapped.

When I had literally $0 mid-way through December, I started to realize what had to be done. And magically, I was able to change my expectations, get a roommate, cancel many unnecessary things (gym membership, no more buying expensive proteins, no more consumer reports, got Comcast to lower my cable bill, etc). I’ve been able to set up a budget and stick to it. I’ve been able to track every expense, because I finally HAVE to do this. Years of attempts and failures, but finally having “skin in the game” lead to success.

Changing, fixing your budget is more difficult than it sounds

To spout out the mantras and trite cliches that simply say, “Change your budget to take in more than you spend,” can sometimes be more difficult than it sounds.

Adjusting my budget wasn’t a small change, it’s a giant lifestyle change that’s hitting nearly every area of my life. I needed to change my workout routine since I cut my gym routine. I have to get a roommate and change my living situation. I have to get used to rarely eating out. I have to change leisure time since I can’t really afford 20$+ to take Susie and me to the theater. My choice was to bottom out with no money in May again, or finally get my shit together. And for now, I’m on the get your shit together path.

Like many who’ve participated on this site, asked me, or debated online, the line between frugality and simply stingy/cheap is sometimes a gray area. Being cheap can sometimes elicit a value question.

A big question a lot of this leaves me with is how to be frugal without being cheap. I think there is some overlap, but that they are different. Frugal to me means cutting back, often not being fully satisfied at the reward of more savings. Cheap to me often reflects a self-interested style of frugality. In my mind, I think of friends who would leave little to no tip at restaurants, try to get everyone else to pay for them, continually try to ask “are you going to finish that.” As I’m making huge changes, maybe I’m trying to find a way to stay congruent with my values in the process.

By sharing my friend’s hard lessons learned and insights along the way, I hope it gives you a window into a world. What you do with that window is yours.

Special thanks to my close friend and confidant. Really appreciate being able to share your growth and story with my readers. All names have been changed, but you know who you are!

Filed Under: Loans Tagged With: Budget, cheap, Credit Card, debt, financial aid, Frugal, graduate school, loans, management, money, relationships, student, Student Loans

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